love is so short -- forgetting is so long
#meta

I’ve read all these fics about how he went on for a while and came back, and I just can’t buy it. Maybe he stood there for a few minutes, trying to talk himself into forgetting about her, but there is nothing that beats the Doctor trying again of his own volition—not because he bumped into an older Rose somewhere, not because Ten went to him and was like OMG GET ROES PLZ, etc. Nine asks again because he just can’t let this girl slip through his fingertips.

Sometimes the simplest explanation is the most effective.

Sorry, I don’t like my ladies’ bodies being fucked with for the sake of a gross plot twist.

It’s cheap, and it’s sickening.

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There’s this idea that keeps being pushed by all the credible folks on the show, that Muslims are automatically irrational, radical and anti-freedom or whatever. Even in a progressive show like the West Wing, there’s so much bigotry in the entertainment establishment—which sort of mimics the bigotry in the everything-that-ever-has-been-established establishment. But let’s be real—terrorists on TV and in film are Arabs. They’re rarely white, even though most acts of terrorism in the US are perpetrated by white men.

When characters like Leo McGarry constantly vilify Iranians and Palestinians and basically Muslims, and rarely is the point made that, hey, the US sort of props up all of these dictators and shit, and we instigate ALL of the drama in the Arabic world because we think we know what’s good for the region.

Again, credit where credit is due: generally TWW provides two sides to every conflict, but generally the ones making the point for anti-imperialism are lacking credibility in the eyes of the main characters and therefore the audience.

In the show’s universe, Israel didn’t pour white phosphorous into Gaza, so Israel (and the US by proxy) maintain most moral authority in that context, but EVEN without that, the most progressive arc of the entire show features a foreign policy expert (and a woman in a man’s world) calling the greatest tragedy of our time the inability for Palestinians and Israelis to recognize their similar struggles and dehumanization. 

It’d be nice to see a show not automatically smear an entire people as hateful savages.

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gallifreyburning:

songfordecem:

 

So while I don’t necessarily think that FotD’s depiction of River’s existence inside the Library computer (i.e. walking on a green field an putting kids to bed) was exactly great, the SETUP of her non-corporeal existence (having her consciousness stored onto a massive computer, with all of the universe’s knowledge at her fingertips) is actually from old Who.

It’s the kind of afterlife Time Lords were given on Gallifrey. So the Library is as close as the Doctor would be able to provide, now that Gallifrey is gone. And honestly, from the Doctor’s perspective, I would imagine that this is the best he could want, in terms of an “afterlife,” for someone he knew was important to him.

Read here and here, if you want to know more. 

Yeah, I just disagree that he would A) just accept that she was close to him and B) NOT do the same for the Master, who at least he has a history with at that point in time.

Also, FOTD’s portrayal of her afterlife makes me really angry because, fuck it, people die. Even Time Lords—and a sentient presence in a supercomputer is not going to feel like living as we know it.

#meta

I wish there were a little more resentment in River here, because seriously, the Doctor sacrificed her free will just so that he could go into hiding.

perfectpsychopath:

COMING SOON

doctor who series 7

hang on

"give me a dalek any day"

this is the same man whose whole race was decimated because of the daleks right

or is he over that shit now i mean finally it took him long enough

davidtennantgasm:

theblackeagleofthenorth:

It’s performances like this which make me disappointed when I hear people say the don’t like Eccelston or skip over that whole season just to get to Tennant. Tennant was fantastic and a brilliant Doctor, but there wouldn’t be a Tennant Doctor without Eccleston’s Doctor. The way Tennant’s Doctor was portrayed was the effect that Rose had on Nine. In the beginning, Nine was harsh and unforgiving having come back from the Time War, his time with Rose softened that harsh attitude and it’s really shown in this episode.

“Just this once, everybody lives!” Has to be my absolute favourite line in all the history of Doctor who because in that episode everyone did.

I cry in almost all of Nine’s episodes. But not happy or sad tears. Just fucking intense emotion tears. He was fantastic.

This scene is most meaningful when the audience understands Nine’s context. Here’s a guy who is broken and hurting and left with nothing but his spaceship. He’s seen and been the cause of so much death, not only offscreen but onscreen, and what we see in S1 prior to this moment is the Doctor showing Rose the pain he has known for so long, and then he gets to show her life and how sometimes, things work out okay. And most importantly, the Doctor needed this. I think this moment gives him the joy that ultimately allows him to accept his love for Rose and sacrifice himself for her—because there is too much joy in the world that Rose hasn’t seen, and so much joy that she hasn’t caused, and he can’t let that happen.

#meta

oodlyenough:

dolled-up-dangerous:

“Fourteen years,” Amelia Pond tells the Doctor, red hair askew, eyes flashing angrily. And rightfully so. After all, fourteen years is an awfully long time to wait, especially for a lonely little girl who understands all-too-well that grown-ups often lie. Sitting outside under the stars, not-so-patiently awaiting the Doctor’s return, and then later, after fourteen years and a brief, whirlwind adventure, the Doctor dubs Amy, “the girl who waited,” adding, sweetly, “You’ve waited long enough.”

Any fan of Doctor Who knows that all of the NuWho girls have titles: the Bad Wolf, The Girl Who Walked the Earth, the Most Important Woman in the Universe, but these titles are not necessarily cannon. The fans who devotedly watch, love, re-watch, and debate Doctor Who have lovingly dubbed the Doctor’s favorite girls with these telling names, but it is Amy Pond, the fiery ginger whose story is inexplicable entwined with the Doctor’s, who is officially given her title by her creators.

A brief critical look of this position for a female character might have one shaking her head at putting any of these, admittedly rich and wonderful, women characters in such a passive role. And it is passive, to tell truth: waiting patiently is as passive an action as they come. The problem with this assessment of Amy’s role in Doctor Who, however, is that despite being titled “The Girl Who Waited,” Amy Pond is far from a passive participant in her adventures with the Doctor.

But before we get into the layers of her character, let’s examine what the title stems from: her childhood. It is there, sitting in her front yard on her packed suitcase, that she earns the “waiting” moniker. She stays out there all night, hoping that the Doctor might be the one grown-up who doesn’t disappear, and she falls asleep in that very spot. All her waiting does her no good in that first instance; it is twelve years until she sees him again.

So there, in those first few moments we meet her, she has earned her title, but it’s uncertain whether she actually deserves it. After all, how much waiting does she actually do? That first night, as a child, of course she waits, and it appears to the viewer that, after he never returns, she perhaps still clings to the hope that one day that big blue box will appear once more. However, even if this is true, her “waiting” does not deter her from living her life: her aunt puts her in therapy and, somehow, she manages to halfheartedly convince herself that the Doctor just wasn’t real. She moves on; she has a boyfriend; she has a job. She’s a bit odd, perhaps, but her oddness can be more attributed to her loneliness than her waiting. 

After the Doctor leaves her in her garden as a child, she lives, for whatever its worth, a perfectly normal, if a bit boring, life. None of that seems to suggest that she is “waiting,” and even if she is (as I will always expect she was, in the back of her mind, ever determined that the Doctor had to be real), she certainly was not halting the rest of her life in the process.

Further into Amy’s story arc, the Girl Who Waited title loses more and more relevance because Amy, who is a wild as the red of her hair, flat-out refuses to do the “passive” thing and often chooses to ignore the Doctor when he tells her not to “wander off.” “The Beast Below” contains an obvious example of this - one that almost gets her sent home, when she makes a decision of which the Doctor doesn’t necessarily approve. In “The Girl Who Waited,” she doesn’t patiently await her rescue: she does what she can; she survives. Again and again she makes decisions on her own and while, yes, sometimes her actions are reactionary, this is true of every companion on the show (and, in fact, even the Doctor), regardless of gender, not because they are weak characters who lack agency, but because the show is fueled by one particular plot device, which is, as my friend Maddie puts in, “Oh, look at this wonderful and interesting place! PERIL. No worries, we fixed it.” This often-used plot means that most of the characters actions will inherently be reactionary. (In fact, I’d argue that perhaps the only actions that can be pro-active are their choices to go with the Doctor and then, in the end, whether or not to leave him.)

Even if The Girl Who Waited title is not necessarily deserved or particularly helpful in such a progressive show female-character-wise, the one thing that solidifies its acceptability in my mind is that Amy clearly has finished waiting (if, that is, she ever really was) and slowly seems to be earning a different title: The Girl Who Remembers. If one examines her actions in comparison to the title she’s been given, it’s obvious that they do not match up: in fact, its impossible for her to still be waiting for the Doctor to rescue her or love her or whatever it was she wanted, because if this were true, she would have been unable to marry Rory and begin any sort of life with him, filled with aliens and danger though it may be.

And let’s be real: In all honesty, most of the waiting in this story is done by Rory; from the time Rory meets Amy, he is constantly waiting for her to notice him, to love him, to choose him over the Doctor, to marry him. Hell, he waits two thousand years for her. He has some of the most reactionary actions in the entirety of Doctor Who. Yet, Rory’s waiting is never criticized; it is devotion, always, just as Amy’s ability to wait for the Doctor, however impatient she may be, should be seen as pure, loving devotion as well.

Being The Girl Who Waited shouldn’t necessarily automatically be a bad thing to begin with, but the creators must have laughed to themselves when they named her that because, when examined closely, it hardly fits her character at all: Amy Pond is not a girl who waits in the car while the people she loves charge into danger. She is always leading the charge. Her feisty attitude and her curiosity make her the farthest from passive she can possibly be, and, if there is, in fact, any waiting that she does, I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing: She loves the Doctor, and we all know that; waiting for him is purely an expression of her loyalty.

In fact, perhaps a better moniker for Amelia Pond would be, “The Girl Who is Tired of Waiting.”

I think it’s probably correct in saying that Amy Pond isn’t a completely passive character. I think there are many many issues with the storylines she was given and how she was allowed to exist within those storylines, but I would never say it was as simple as “Amy Pond waits too much”, or whatever.

The thing is though, even if her title of “The Girl Who Waited” IS a terrible match for her, as you say, it’s still one that is constantly made again and again and again by the show. Like you said, the other companion ‘titles’ that people like to use in gifsets and tumblr tags are nice, but they’re mentioned once. Amy is called “the girl who waited” over and over again, which I think is problematic precisely because it reduces all of Amy’s actions to “remember that time she waited?” Amy’s done a lot of things. Amy’s remembered the universe back into existence; Amy’s survived.

But even after Eleven tells her “it’s time to stop waiting” in The God Complex (a realization that, apparently, needs to come in the text from the Doctor and not Amy herself), and the tagline fro Amy’s perfume being “for the girl who’s tired of waiting”, we have the Doctor referring to her as “the girl who waited” still in 6x13. Whatever Amy Pond has done so far in 2 seasons, the show doesn’t let her escape the title. It COULD be that the show is going to turn this on its head eventually and acknowledge the problems with constantly calling Amy by this phrase… but I honestly doubt it very much.

(There’s also the fact that it’s always the “girl” who waited. Amy’s married, Amy’s in her 20s, Amy’s a mom. Amy is a grownass woman, not a “girl”.)

I call her the Woman Who Survived because A) she’s not a girl—that’s diminutive and even a bit demeaning— and B) when she was on her own for decades, she didn’t wait around—she fought for her life and got shit done. Unfortunately, the framing of the show very much portrays Amy as a passive figure, always been tossed around by fate and the Doctor’s general bullshit.

#meta

gallifreyburning:

a-who-in-whoville:

thetardisismyhome:

a-who-in-whoville:

tardisingallifrey:

The misterious woman of The End of Time.

The original idea was that this woman would be the Doctor’s mother. He does look quite affected by her presence.

But it was never really confirmed if she actually was the Doctor’s mother.

I vote yes, this is Mummy. How do you vote? Mummy or far too interested Time Lady bystander?

I think it’s his mother.

And I was just struck by how horrible this would have been. He already thought he sent her to her death when he pushed the button to destroy Gallifrey and the Daleks the first time. He’s been mourning the loss of his people and his family for years, and now here he is again, having to do it all over again. Last time he probably didn’t have to look his mum in the face while condemning them all to death, so this time it’s probably that much more horrible. It rips my heart out to think about this. Could you imagine what it would be like to do the right thing when the right thing means you kill your mother, twice?

I am crying all over again… :*(

You are so right TTIMH… It explains so much. The goodbye tour, the pain of the Master finally dying (when I say finally, I mean…well…finally to Ten. He’ll be back, of course, at some point), the explosiveness of his regeneration, and perhaps the reason why Eleven is SOOOOO different than Ten (in my humble opinion). 

I have to say, I really like the idea that it’s Susan. (Your granddaughter appearing older than you: things that can happen when your species regenerates.) We know that Susan held a special place in the Doctor’s hearts. When he stole the TARDIS and left Gallifrey, there was only one Time Lord he cared enough for, whose companionship he valued so deeply, that he invited her to come gallivant across time and space with him. He came to Earth for her sake; he started traveling with humans because of her.

The Doctor left her on a future Earth with a human man she’d fallen in love with, but we don’t know exactly what happened to her during the Time War, and whether she was recalled to Gallifrey. The possibility certainly exists.

But that’s just my personal preference, in reading the scene; RTD did what he usually does, i.e. leave things just open enough to interpretation to create discussion and emotional depth in the scene. 

Side note, but I also always figured the explosive regeneration was due to the fact that Ten died because of radiation poisoning. That the radiation combined with the regeneration energy in a particularly volatile way. 

On regenerations being explosive: I totally think the whole reason Nine’s was so chaotic was taking in the Time Vortex, because he literally burned to almost-death, right? So it makes sense that instead of regenerations all just being super violent, the Doctor’s last couple of deaths have been particularly gruesome and reactive.

I’m not quite sure why Eleven was about to regenerate with the gold shit when he got shot, though—probably for continuity’s sake. I mean, getting shot is violent and not at all fun, I imagine, but it’s not like he was exposed to radiation or swallowed the Time Vortex. 

It’s probably just a creative choice that we’re overthinking, of course, but then… I mean RTD was careful with all of his choices—hell, he made Ten pick up on Rose’s little quirks because that regeneration was made in her image—so I can’t really imagine he wouldn’t have a reason for going with the fireworks.

valentina-slaynetta asked: Alice is basically my headcanon Irene and Moffat's fuckery won't ever change that. Neil Cross' gender/race fail free writing is why I nearly sobbed when it was announced that he was writing an episode of DW for the next series(I want him to run the show tho and Moffat and gtfo like RTD did). Martin and Cumbers can go gtfo with their bff Moff imo(and poor Matt looked like he was a very reluctant participant during Cumbers' "LEMME SHOW YOU MY MOFF FEELS" speech).

I mean, it’s rare that personality disorders are treated right in entertainment—and it’s interesting that they made her a malignant narcissist instead of an antisocial (psychopath) because it gives her the capability to feel attachment and even sentimentality, no matter how self-serving it may be. Usually they’re labeled sociopaths/psychopaths (who aren’t necessarily mindless killing machines as pop culture would have it) and that’s the end of it—and then they’re romanticized and it’s like… o.O um no.

I mean, I did feel uncomfortable with that scene in the first episode where John loses his shit and beats up on Zoe’s house, because oh okay so it’s a violent black man, lovely. But omg everything else is basically perfection. 

WAIT WHAT NEIL CROSS IS DOING A DW EP? UDHHUIHSUHS

It’d be lovely if a person of color/a woman could write for DW, since it’s like all white men, but I’ll take what I can get.

I mean, in terms of RTD—and I really don’t idolize him, although I think he was a far better showrunner than Moffat—and intersectional fail, he was SUPERB on gender. I mean, every time the Doctor made stupid arrogant choices for his companions, it bit him in the ass—Rose became Bad Motherfucking Wolf and he had to sacrifice himself for her, he was a dick to Martha and made her walk the Earth for a year as well as be a servant to a dickwad human in pre-WWI England and she left him because I mean come on, he totally abused Donna’s autonomy by locking away her memories of him and then Waters of Mars happened and he died a really painful lonely death, etc. So like, at least when the Doctor was a sexist prick to his companions, it was framed as such—except with awful GITF in which he had to face no consequences for hurting Rose and making her feel inferior, but Moffat. Of course, there was that awful oral sex joke in Love and Monsters, and other things that I’m blanking on now.

As far as race fail, it definitely happened under RTD—the seemingly random Pair the Spares of Martha/Mickey (even though I understand they were supposed to be in CoE, and that means RTD did have a relationship thoroughly planned out for them from S4—why else would he have Mickey stay in the original universe, after all); Martha (and the Token Black Guy who asks Sally Sparrow out) having to chill in racist motherfucking 1969 with seemingly no problems with it except for not being able to travel, especially after racism was handled so well in HN/FoB, but again, Moffat; etc.

What RTD did well was subtly pointing out stupid things racist people do without knowing they’re racist—the Doctor’s colorblindness in The Shakespeare Code (and I do think that was intentional, because even though the Doctor was like LOL NAW it’s fine, Shakespeare was like heyy brown sugahhh, disproving the Doctor’s theory that she’d be treated with respect); Midnight, in which the white professor is a dick to his brown student, and when she’s right most of the time he’s dismissive and I guarantee they were cast as the races they were on purpose; Midnight again, the whole fear and frenzy mob mentality was a play on human nature—when shit gets bad, people look for a scapegoat, and the people who take the fall are the people of color (especially women of color). Human Nature/Family of Blood imo did a great job with race and racism, and I think Martha might have been previously living in a bit of a privileged bubble, so placing her in that situation was horribly cruel but might have made her stronger in the end. Of course, the biggest thing is Martha and Mickey’s transformations into badasses from normal folks. They go from people in love miserably to independent motherfuckers with massive skills and heroism. I personally think that they go really well together, in terms of their stories and personal growth as well as personalities—she heals people, he heals machines; they’ve both turned into soldiers because of their situations, because it was either fight or die, and that sort of symbolizes the relentless fight for equality and justice of POC, Martha is in Germany because the name Marta sounds like martyr, and she is a martyr in a sense, but she ends up in a better place than any of the Doctor’s companions (she gets to choose her out, for instance) and I don’t know… maybe it’s my white justification shit going on but I feel like the framing, the narrative indicates that Martha’s extensive suffering leads her to freedom—a la the suffering of POC, eventually oppressed people will be free, will have rights and though the fight is arduous and often fatal, that freedom can be attained through perseverance (and a shitload of money, although that’s a different story). 

Anyway, that was a bit of a tangent LMAO—but I wanted to post this publicly because I spent a half hour meta-ing and so yay.

Also, I didn’t see the speech—I was too appalled—so I don’t know what Matt looked like lmao. But I’ll take your word for it.

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I could come with you. I want to come with you.

The thing about Karen/Holly is that Holly does try to be responsible. She’s constantly trying to draw a line, but she’s got a weakness and apparently that weakness is this student of hers, and yeah, that’s fucked up—but ultimately, in this circumstance, at this moment, their relationship is the MOST healthy of any we’ve seen on the show thus far.

That being said, it’s gonna go to hell, even more than we saw in the show, and it’s not going to last because Karen will grow up and Holly will be shamed publicly, a pariah, she’ll lose her job (rightfully so) and Karen will drop out and end up with a lousy job to keep a little autonomy for herself.

#meta

lastofthetimeladies:

When I first watched Doctor Who, I was like, “What the fuck is Bad Wolf.” Even after watching “The Parting of the Ways,” I was super fucking confused. And for good reason. It’s a confusing concept.

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Exactly. It never confused me tbh, because she says, “I create myself.” She knows what she wants and lets the words mean what she wants them to mean—and therefore Bad Wolf means that Rose Tyler is coming for the Doctor.

#meta

stormwolf:

bookishandi:

stormwolf:

thatwhoviansynesthete:

stormwolf:

Rory WILLIAMS is a character in his own right, not just a boil on Amy Pond’s ass.

Dude he’s Mr. POND.

It’s a well known, accepted fact.

(I think it’s even canon.)

THEY ARE THE PONDS.

THEY WILL ALWAYS BE THE PONDS.

He is Rory Williams. She is Amy Pond. They are two characters, not Amy Pond and that guy who’s just a package deal.

Rory is absolutely not just a boil on Amy’s ass. But calling them the Ponds doesn’t make him that, and more than calling me Mrs. Gilroy makes me a boil on my husband’s ass. I chose to take the name, accepted that change, and my marriage is a pretty important part of my identity. One of the things I like about the Ponds is that it undermines the traditional married=take the guys’ name thing. We don’t know if Amy took his name or not, though I would guess she didn’t, which is her choice either way, but, “Mr. Pond” is actually canon, accepted by Rory in “The Big Bang”:

The Doctor: Amelia! From now on I shall be leaving the kissing duties to the brand new MrPond.
Rory: No. I’m not MrPond. That’s not how it works. 
The Doctor: Yeah it is.
Rory: Yeah. It is.
The Doctor: Right then everyone. I’ll be in my box. You’re going to need the space. I only came for the dancing.

The Doctor calls them the Ponds, they respond to it, Rory included, and Rory even agrees to name his daughter Melody Pond, not Melody Williams. 

Names and family are funny things, and changing names doesn’t reduce you, it just adds a new dimension. Just because I’m Andrea Gilroy doesn’t mean I’m not Andrea Margetic anymore. Just that a new life step prompted a bit of a change in who I identify myself with. 

I’m usually open to outrage, but I don’t see the problem here (and almost no one who calls him “Mr. Ponds” or refers to the family as “the Ponds” love Rory; he’s probably one of the more universally liked characters of the past two seasons.

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Um, the thing is, if calling Rory Mr. Pond makes him seem like an afterthought, well wouldn’t calling Amy Mrs. Williams be the same thing?

They have chosen to use “Pond” as their surname. 

I have no sympathy for this man pain argument when women take men’s names all the fucking time. 

posted 2 years ago via stormwolf with 41 notes
#meta

But the Doctor does accept it.
He accepts that he can’t see Rose again—and he treats her like she’s dead because even a pinch of hope would threaten the existence of the universe. He leaves Jack behind because death is a kinder fate than immortality, and he blames himself for what the Bad Wolf did. He accepts Jenny’s fate. Of course, he is so emotionally fragile in Journey’s End that he can’t let Donna die because of him, but he’s never let his friends die when he thinks he’s at fault (he takes the Bad Wolf out of Rose, and of course he locks away Donna’s memories of their life together).
I think what he did to River at the end was done with good intentions, but he took her choice away. He made her choice irrelevant because he had ~teh manpainz~ and then he put her in a computer so that she could live a false life forever. Which is like the opposite thing he would ever want to do to someone.
However, he would prefer his friends not to die—he does send Rose away with TenToo so that he doesn’t have to watch her die, he’s happy that Martha chose to leave on her own so he didn’t have to do it for her, he did that awful thing to Donna that I can’t even deal with and of course he made Amy’s choice for her.
But I don’t think he can’t accept their deaths. He constantly moves on.

But the Doctor does accept it.

He accepts that he can’t see Rose again—and he treats her like she’s dead because even a pinch of hope would threaten the existence of the universe. He leaves Jack behind because death is a kinder fate than immortality, and he blames himself for what the Bad Wolf did. He accepts Jenny’s fate. Of course, he is so emotionally fragile in Journey’s End that he can’t let Donna die because of him, but he’s never let his friends die when he thinks he’s at fault (he takes the Bad Wolf out of Rose, and of course he locks away Donna’s memories of their life together).

I think what he did to River at the end was done with good intentions, but he took her choice away. He made her choice irrelevant because he had ~teh manpainz~ and then he put her in a computer so that she could live a false life forever. Which is like the opposite thing he would ever want to do to someone.

However, he would prefer his friends not to die—he does send Rose away with TenToo so that he doesn’t have to watch her die, he’s happy that Martha chose to leave on her own so he didn’t have to do it for her, he did that awful thing to Donna that I can’t even deal with and of course he made Amy’s choice for her.

But I don’t think he can’t accept their deaths. He constantly moves on.

#meta

lastofthetimeladies:

lastofthetimeladies:

I want you safe. My Doctor.
1x13 - The Parting of the Ways

Look at the Doctor’s face. He has been falling in love with Rose throughout the whole season, and has, to some extent, loved her since the moment they met. But he’s broken and he’s scared and he’s self-loathing. He doesn’t believe that he is lovable anymore. He doesn’t think he deserves to be loved.

But then Rose says this, and he can finally see that she does love him. And as the Bad Wolf, she knows the whole universe, all of time and space. She knows him. She forgives him. And she loves him. 

Though he is terrified for Rose, knowing that she’s burning up from the inside with all that energy inside of her, he gains hope from these words. Just look at his face at the revelation that Rose loves him. This is the moment that solidifies their relationship. He will never give up hope for her after this point. He will do anything to save her.

Bringing this back because I had a discussion yesterday about whether or not the Bad Wolf was actually Rose, and I want to get my point across just how important I think it is that Rose gets the credit for being the Bad Wolf from the fandom. 

The Bad Wolf was meant to save the Doctor, but the more important thing that the Bad Wolf did was show how far Rose had come as a person. The Bad Wolf is an act of self-sacrifice and love. (And every character involved in this episode does have an act of self-sacrifice: Jack sacrifices his life and goes down fighting the daleks. The TARDIS sacrifices herself to give Rose the ability to be the Bad Wolf. The Doctor kisses Rose and saves her, knowing that he will die or regenerate from all the energy coursing through his body.)

It is absolutely crucial, not only to her character and the way we as an audience view it, but to the story, that we acknowledge that Rose was the Bad Wolf and not the TARDIS. The TARDIS definitely helped - it was a team effort. As Rose says, “I looked into the TARDIS, and the TARDIS looked into me.” The TARDIS gave Rose the power to see time and space and change the things that needed to be changed. But regardless of whose original power it was, Rose was the one whose eyes were seeing time and space, whose brain was calculating what needed to be changed, whose hands were changing things and spreading the words through time and space.

Denying that it’s Rose is denying the big picture. Rose’s being the Bad Wolf was monumental for both her and the Doctor and their development as a couple. It was her shining moment as a hero. 

Yes. The TARDIS could not on her own save the Doctor—she required a vessel with such an intense love for the Doctor as well as someone who the Doctor could not let die for him to make that sacrifice.


Rose took the initiative, Rose had free will. It was her choice, and the TARDIS enabled her.